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photoshop training advice.
« on: November 15, 2010, 06:49:35 PM »
I am going to make it my goal for the upcoming year to learn photoshop. 

I am in search of some training software or books that will help me out on this.  I know there is probably some geared to more of the training side for use in our business.

There are quite a few out there to choose from:

So my question for the masses is does anyone have any recommendations for this sort of thing?
Are there online classes that anyone has taken that they would recommend?

We currently have photoshop 7.0.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jon

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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 06:59:03 PM »
i found a book that has helped me.  It's called "Photoshop 7.0 for Screen Printers" published by Ballew.  I think i got it from Amazon.  i found several things out there but finding something specific to screen printing is the challenge. 
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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 10:16:23 PM »
Whenever I encountered something I needed to do, I would search YouTube or Google for the solution. I used to bookmark 'em and/or write a littel cheat sheet. I never consult the cheat sheet anymore and rarely need YouTube or Google anymore.
Just learn what you need when you need to. As a screen printer, Photoshop has way more functionality then I need but being a power user makes quick work of a lot of task.

Now, if somebody knew how to change several layer overlay colors, that would great. That's one answer I can't find.
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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 10:20:47 PM »
www.lynda.com for a few months and then Youtube as needed,,,,,

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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 10:55:44 AM »
Great Dane Graphics has a good book on Illustrator/Photoshop for t-shirt art for the Mac side, or they have Corel Draw/Photoshop for t-shirt art on the PC side. Very specific to t-shirt printing, easy to follow, depending on your knowledge of course. It may be a good start. And as others said, I've found a ton of help by googling.

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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 11:06:54 AM »
Do people in the screen printing world use illustrator or photoshop more? I am definitely one of the worst excuses for a "graphic designer" but use primarily Illustrator. Should I be focusing more effort on learning the other? What are the primary differences as far as what you can do in one that you can not do in the other?

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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 11:20:38 AM »
The absolute biggest difference is that Photoshop is Raster and Illustrator is vector.  Illy is still a bit of a challenge for me.
I use PS 90% of the time and use Illustrator when I need to convert or create something in Vector. Most of the time, a quality raster image will do just fine.
For me, PS is easier. I guess you use what you know best.
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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 11:59:08 AM »
I've worked primarily in Illustrator and have very good experience in Freehand at the beginning stages since Sept. of 1989.

I can say that I'm very good in Illustrator. I taught Illustrator and also taught Photoshop at a community college. I have trained many others in my own workplaces along the way as it pertains to screen print art. With that said, I currently use Photoshop about 85-95% of the time for both creating my own art as well as separating other peoples art.

I can say for sure, that if all I had was Photoshop, I could continue running your print shop and never miss a beat. That includes all flat/solid vector looking art like  Logo's.

While I use it and like it over all other programs, I still purchase and operate the others so that I can accommodate all of my customers with their unique individual needs.
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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 02:20:06 PM »
You can teach yourself. I did and I was a computer luddite until the turn of the century.

Youtube has thousands of video tutorials on every aspect of PS, including a few for color seps. Just do a search for what you want to know.

The HELP menu in PS itself is also a good place to get the basics. It's a huge thing to learn, but if you make an effort to learn something new every day, you will find yourself getting familiar rather quickly.
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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 02:45:24 PM »
I bought a book from Lynda.com on Dreamweaver years ago and the tutorial seemed pretty thorough. With Photoshop, there's so much stuff in there I sometimes wonder if anyone knows everything about it. Kind of like the tax code, except with Photoshop, at least you really get your money's worth. If I had to use only one program, that would be it.
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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 02:52:49 PM »
With Photoshop, there's so much stuff in there I sometimes wonder if anyone knows everything about it.

I attended a seminar recently by my favorite Photoshop illustrator and he said that even the engineers and programmers don't know what this software is capable of. Most of the tips and techniques you hear about come from the tester's and user's discoveries.

Also, there's usually more than one way to do everything, so you might learn one way from a book or class, then learn a different way to do the same thing from another.
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Re: photoshop training advice.
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 03:22:58 PM »
I found PS a bit confusing at first because I started with vector first, mostly Freehand, then Illy. So, I started trying to do just one thing at a time, so it wouldn't be so overwhelming. It's a lot like playing the guitar, it's easy to do a few simple things, hard as hell to master. There was no web to search out when I started, so I had to learn a lot through reading and trying out what I read. Just take it slow, you'll be fine.
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