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I have a project that I need help with. Needs some fabric flags printed. Still checking on type of fabric. DTG preferably.



Largest, red ensign....8"x15"
5 smaller ones..royal standard, flag of the royal hi admiral, blue ensign, ..etc..... 4"x8"

Also looking for full size tiff image files. Also checking to see if two prints need to be made of each to make flags two sided.

The images posted contain outdated english symbols, similar to american flags with less then 50 stars.

With the union jack's, the red X was added in 1801, but the older style was used to almost 200 years, so finding a matching flag should

The royal standard in the middle of the second row, looks a lot like George II's, but it seems to be lacking the crown of Charlemagne. This would make it about as obscure as a 49 star flag.

http://www.flheritage.com/facts/symbols/images/flags/Britain.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/UK_Arms_1714.svg <- vector but failed to open in illustrator cs3.



George II's arms were: Quarterly, I Gules three lions passant guardant in pale Or (for England) impaling Or a lion rampant within a tressure flory-counter-flory Gules (for Scotland); II Azure three fleurs-de-lys Or (for France); III Azure a harp Or stringed Argent (for Ireland); IV tierced per pale and per chevron (for Hanover), I Gules two lions passant guardant Or (for Brunswick), II Or a semy of hearts Gules a lion rampant Azure (for L?neburg), III Gules a horse courant Argent (for Westfalen), overall an escutcheon Gules charged with the crown of Charlemagne Or (for the dignity of Archtreasurer of the Holy Roman Empire).

I know exactly what the images represent. I build from scratch various model boats and submarines. Scale from 1/144 to my present project that is 1/24 1891 scow schooner.

These flags are for a ship named "Royal William", a 32-gun fifth rate ship of the Royal Scottish Navy, 1707. Here are some photos of the model ship and it's builder.




This model is over 8' long all hand build with working guns and sails.
The request for the flags is to have them made on silk fabric. Cotton is too heavy. The builder has already tried a screen printer in his area and the results of plastisol were less than acceptable.

If some one can produce these images on silk fabric, I will have the builder contact you directly with specifics.

Hi Ralph,

Aside from the history lesson of the origins of the flags, I would think DTG would be the way to go.  Cotton fabric as poly and nylon won't let the ink adhere.  Since there is heat involved, i wouldnt think silk would be advised able as it would probably scorch.

Contact Sam over at Palomar Printing.  He does contract DTG work and would be able to advise on this project.

dye sub on poly flag material. dtg and even my large format isn't really the way to roll on this, to me anyway. .

All information is good. Sooner or later the answer will come.

I only do simple plastisol printing on a 6/6 press. I don't know much about any other type of garment printing other than it can be done direct to garment. The process is unknown to me.

More info. The flags will be exposed to weather as these ships are full functional radio controlled museum quality and are run in the wild. The wild being on lakes and in salt water bays and estuaries.

These boats are built to run at gatherings. The boats can be very large. Most are 1/32 or 1/24 scale. 8' to 12' long or more.

     

All sails are working and usually independent of each other. Most have working canons that fire blank charges in any order the operator chooses. They can have working anchors and winches.

This particular ship is near completion. It has had some time on the water to finalize ballasting. Fine details are still being done. It was started in 2006 I believe. All the trim work on the boat was hand made by carving sections, making molds for each part and casting multiple parts. Example. This man made all the windows by making full size wooden forms them casting the frames. Once the frames where made the window glass was made using white glue on a film of wax to make translucent sheets to mount in the frames. Then all is coated with a clear or tan varnish to make it water resistant.

The people who make these old ships have amazing talent far beyond what I do or even think of doing.

These ships are works of art.

I have up loaded a couple of large images showing just how much detail goes in to a ship like this. The first shows the rear section with all it's scrolls and figures. These were all hand carved. The second image shows one figure being modeled. For size the tool being used is a standard size diamond dust covered fingernail file with the tip bent for better use. The figure is about 3/4" high.

I am using links instead of placing images here due to there size.

image 1
image 2

Ralph, I'll join in on the dye-sub as it will leave no hand to the material. As for your work, WOW, just beautiful.

Steve