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what to look for in a gas dryer?
« on: May 22, 2011, 10:50:22 AM »
I'm starting to look at gas dryers, what are some of the features that I should look for? I see some models 58" wide, around 3k -and some around 10k, I know age is a factor and I'm ok with going used on this. It will be feeding 2 autos. so I would like atleast a 48" belt, I think? Or should I buy a new one? Are they tricky to hook up and get running?  This electric thing is sucking my profits out the air vent. . .J

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 11:16:29 AM »
Not to much up on gas dryers but there are:

Adelco JetForce

M&R Heatwave and sprint

Interchange

Anatol Mariah and Anatol Hydro-Cure Hybrid Dryer

I know there are more but these are the ones I know exist.


If you are going to feed from two autos then get the widest belt with the longest in-feed you can.
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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 11:28:41 AM »
Thanks P  -I've been looking around and reading up on it, I accidentally went to digitsmith, won't do that again. I'll hit up CGS and see what they have. I will have a ton of room, so the overall size won't matter. We are doing more and more discharge and WB printing so I want a long enough chamber to really crank that out too. The search continues. 


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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 12:39:55 PM »
Thanks P  -I've been looking around and reading up on it, I accidentally went to digitsmith, won't do that again. I'll hit up CGS and see what they have. I will have a ton of room, so the overall size won't matter. We are doing more and more discharge and WB printing so I want a long enough chamber to really crank that out too. The search continues.
I'd suggest -

60" belt
Min 10' tunnel, 12' or more would be better.
If you are doing alot of discharge plan on installing at least 3 vent holes in the roof. 1 big one for the main vent, 2 small ones for fume hoods on each end of the dryer. (all must be separately exhausted)

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 08:14:51 PM »
I work with a M&R Sprint I think...but it cooled itself down and cut itself off. Thats was great

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 06:48:27 AM »
Homer, make sure you check the BTU's, some of the old ones were gas hogs.  Most of those are probably in the scrapyard now.  I agree with evo, at least 12 feet of heat.  I have 12 and wish I had 16, but I can add a heat module to mine and take out a 4' feed section and not need a new belt.

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 07:21:33 AM »
Thanks guys -so I am going to stay within the requirements of 60" belt, and 12' heat -if not more, in the 10 yr old range. I am seeing these large dryers everywhere. I have some time to get the right one so I'll keep looking and calling around.

Thanks Ross. . .

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 09:02:23 AM »
Hi Homer, we run to old Advance Tex-Air, a 48" and a 60". Infrared panels in the front end, convection gas in the middle, and one more IR panel on the way out. Bought them used, and they run well. Keep them up, and they keep on runnin'.
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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 10:11:43 AM »
talk with some independent techs in your area and see what they work on the least.  That is the oven you want.

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 03:46:25 PM »
I've been researching gas dryers for about 8 months now, and we run an Advance/American Tex-Air 48" gas/electric combo dryer that will probably cure more shirts per hour than any new dryer with the same size belt and heat chamber.  Our 48" can handle 2 autos since the belt speed is so fast and if we loaded both autos from the side of the belt instead of the end like we do with one auto, it would be fine and likely not have to be real creative when folding the shirts onto the belt.  Running the auto at 500-600 per hour, we can put the shirts on the belt completely layed out flat, not folded.  Now when we get up to 1000/hr, we have to fold the shirt to where only the image area is showing.

I'm with most of the guys when suggesting AT LEAST 10' heat chamber if you're going to be doing discharge/WB and 2 autos, and I'd try real hard at getting a 60" belt, 12' heat, at least 5' infeed and at least 5' outfeed.

Now as far as the brands go, if you could find an american texair like ours, newer of course that was gas with electric radiant panels as well, it would be a steal.  I've seen quite a few of these on the used market and they go for nothing, yet ours runs without fail every single day and has had millions of shirts fed through it in it's 20+ year history.  I know if we tried to sell ours, nobody would pay what it's really worth to our shop, or what it would be worth to the shop buying it.  It runs all day, every day yet it's essentially worthless on the used market even though it's value to us is second to nothing in our shop.  It's weird that it works like that with dryers, but ours is a beast that still outperforms most new dryers when it comes to the amount of shirts it can cure.

I've heard great things about Interchange and M&R, and that's about it for good reviews on the dryer market.  The other major dryer manufacturers have been hammered by those I talk to about them, and there seems to be nothing good to say about them unfortunately.  So there are some stinkers out there in the dryer market, but I can say that there are at least 3 that will serve you well.
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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2011, 08:14:14 PM »
This is a great thread, please keep the reviews coming!

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2011, 08:29:43 PM »
I've been researching gas dryers for about 8 months now, and we run an Advance/American Tex-Air 48" gas/electric combo dryer that will probably cure more shirts per hour than any new dryer with the same size belt and heat chamber.  Our 48" can handle 2 autos since the belt speed is so fast and if we loaded both autos from the side of the belt instead of the end like we do with one auto, it would be fine and likely not have to be real creative when folding the shirts onto the belt.  Running the auto at 500-600 per hour, we can put the shirts on the belt completely layed out flat, not folded.  Now when we get up to 1000/hr, we have to fold the shirt to where only the image area is showing.

I'm with most of the guys when suggesting AT LEAST 10' heat chamber if you're going to be doing discharge/WB and 2 autos, and I'd try real hard at getting a 60" belt, 12' heat, at least 5' infeed and at least 5' outfeed.

Now as far as the brands go, if you could find an american texair like ours, newer of course that was gas with electric radiant panels as well, it would be a steal.  I've seen quite a few of these on the used market and they go for nothing, yet ours runs without fail every single day and has had millions of shirts fed through it in it's 20+ year history.  I know if we tried to sell ours, nobody would pay what it's really worth to our shop, or what it would be worth to the shop buying it.  It runs all day, every day yet it's essentially worthless on the used market even though it's value to us is second to nothing in our shop.  It's weird that it works like that with dryers, but ours is a beast that still outperforms most new dryers when it comes to the amount of shirts it can cure.

I've heard great things about Interchange and M&R, and that's about it for good reviews on the dryer market.  The other major dryer manufacturers have been hammered by those I talk to about them, and there seems to be nothing good to say about them unfortunately.  So there are some stinkers out there in the dryer market, but I can say that there are at least 3 that will serve you well.

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2011, 08:40:27 PM »
Dammit Sonny - you are supposed to be helping me look -not advertise it! haha. . .

So what about that 60" Mariah 3 vs the American 48"?

Alan - you have a 48" and you don't have too many issues with loading 2 autos?


I'm sure there are some real gems out there, I just have to start looking, I'm almost ready to pull the trigger , I have a few obstacles in the way at the moment, but I'd hate like hell to pass up a deal of a life time. . . Thanks guys -

Alan  -when I get ready to look at the new auto's  Imma call you.

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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
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Re: what to look for in a gas dryer?
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2011, 06:34:35 AM »
The bottom dryer on McClain's page is a 500,000 BTU dryer.  Do the math on hourly operating costs on that one.  Mine is 180,000 and runs about $1-$1.25 per hour depending on gas prices.  A dryer like that will eat you up.

I've heard that some older model sprints had bearing issues and they are really hard to replace.  I think the problem was the bearings got too hot and the grease melted out.  I am not 100% sure what caused it though.  I got this from a tech that keeps recommending M&R presses, so he's not anti-M&R.  For the price of new, you might want to look at it.


 

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