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Offline SBrem

Gel inks...
« on: June 17, 2010, 07:55:10 AM »
Good morning everyone. I have a customer inquiring about gel inks, and we just haven't had to try them before, so I'm wondering if anyone could share some experience with us. I've checked out Union, Rutland and QCM so far, literature wise that is. Any favorites and/or tips

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Offline screenxpress

Gel inks...
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 12:06:49 AM »
Looks like you're going to be the board expert.  :)
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Offline Ross_S

Gel inks...
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 06:35:10 AM »
I use rutland.  Get some super gel and you can tint it with about 16% ink.  It's thick so your best results come using an 86 mesh.  Build your screen up more than normal maybe a 3 and 3 coat or even a 5 and 5.  You want it to lay down heavy kind of like HD.

Offline Doug B

Gel inks...
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 08:02:27 AM »
Whatever you use, I agree that you should have as thick a stencil as possible. I have even used
Chromaline PHAT cap films. It should also be the last down. If you don't get the thickness you
want, you may have to P/F/P. Depending on the brand you use, you could use 110, but I prefer
86 as Ross_S.

Offline SBrem

Gel inks...
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 08:19:39 AM »
Man, this took a while to show up in "New posts"... thanks all, thick stencils seem to be the prevailing wisdom. I like the tech sheet from QCM, it seems easy to use, and phthalate/lead free.

Offline QCM

Gel inks...
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 12:01:00 PM »
Are you looking for an overprint gel or a gel that domes?  They are 2 different things.
Colin Huggins
Senior Ink Applications Manager

Offline SBrem

Gel inks...
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2010, 12:19:55 PM »
I think they are looking for the dome effect. Is the overprint gel an anti-fibrillation product or just a different effect?

Offline QCM

Gel inks...
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 02:27:43 PM »
It's used as a heavy gloss effect.  We do not recomend it as a base clear.  We have other clears that work better.

The LFP-1060 Crystal Gel has high gloss properties and prints smooth and clean.  You can print it thick if wanted, but it does not dome like the old Thermoline does.  Those also require temps over 360 degrees throughout the ink layer to make it work properly.

I've heard from my customers that all the new phthalate free doming gells are not performing the way they used to.  That could curently be fixed, but I have not heard anything yet.

Offline SBrem

Gel inks...
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2010, 08:51:27 AM »
Thanks for the info, I'll get that back to my customer. I'm dealing with dressed all in black art types from the big city on this one. We do a lot of experimenting for them, and they pay, so we keep trying. It's almost never what they're looking for...


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