Author Topic: Pallet Rubber/MHM  (Read 3461 times)

Offline bndlstif

Pallet Rubber/MHM
« on: September 08, 2010, 12:14:52 PM »
Any of you MHMers use pallet rubber? My machine/pallets came without and I've
done fine so far, but I've always wondered. My last press had rubber and I think
it made a difference (never did any side by side) but may have been used to just cover
the bracket bolts. (Old Auto-Rototex) At any rate, if it makes a difference I'll do it,
but covering up space age honeycomb aluminum seems a bit odd, and heavy.


Offline killergraphics

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 12:25:24 PM »
There is a "not to be mentioned again co" that has it and Frog has a place to buy it from, I will have to look up the site unless he comes back first.

My thinking is the rubber is better in the flash heat and a softer print surface makes a better print.
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Offline SBrem

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 01:06:51 PM »
We have an MHM without rubber on the pallets, and an old Gauntlet with rubber on the pallets. Now the MHM is the superior machine of the two (much newer, not trying to start an argument), but I think the rubber pallets make a difference on large area white prints, the simple roman lettering not so much. That said, our best work is done on the MHM, again, it's a lot newer than the Gauntlet.

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Offline Printficient

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 01:31:24 PM »
The whole idea behind the platens on a MHM is to help remove one of the problems with dark printing.  That is, too much heat.  That is why they are honey comb aluminium.
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Offline bluemoon

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 01:48:07 PM »
hmmm . . . I often wished MHM had rubber on the plattens! It is more forgiving and easier to be sloppy but still achieve decent results. Not having it on the MHM forces you to do the things the right way. The question is "what happens when you know how to print the right way and have the rubber on the plattens?" Is it a limitation or does it help more? My last high end print was registered to few thousands of an inch. Would rubber have give and prevent me from doing that?

sorry, no answer here, just more questions . . .

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Offline inkman996

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 02:17:51 PM »
I cant see rubber having that much of a tolerance issue when printing unless of course you are smashing your squeegees into them. Besides if the rubber has give in it wouldn't the same be true for the Shirt especially fleece?

My Jav has all aluminum and never has heat build up been an issue nor registering jobs, having rubber couldn't possibly make my printing any better.
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Offline ZooCity

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 02:33:32 PM »
Funny this came up, I just burnt the living hell out of a platen on Monday and ordered new rubber and glue yesterday. 

You can get rubber for covering platens, Buna-N-Nitrile it's called, in different durometers.  I believe that 70 is fairly standard but I've got some 60 from the afore(un)mentioned place that I use on our over-the-zipper platens.  If you wanted the rubber but not too much give or leeway you may be able to find it in an 80 or 90.  Just a thought.

I personally like the rubber and have used it from day 1 with my old rototex, which yeah, they needed the top it with rubber cause of those bolts coming up through the platen. 

One thing I've found about the rubber this time around is that it while it appears to cost more buying direct from industry suppliers, the 3M 1357 adhesive is much cheaper when ordered with the rubber.  I bought from M&Rs online parts store this time around and while the rubber was more per linear foot than some other non-industry places, I saved $10-20 bucks on the quart of glue over getting it locally or from grainger, etc. 

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Offline killergraphics

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 03:34:01 PM »
I have not had to do anything with the rubber on the auto yet.

But on the manual I use two sided tape and spray tac to hold them down.

Offline inkman996

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 03:39:15 PM »
who the hell is this "not to be named company" Calibrated?

Offline killergraphics

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 03:43:56 PM »
No it is Action the one that screwed us on the show deal.

Offline Frog

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 04:15:13 PM »
who is us?
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Offline ZooCity

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 04:19:49 PM »
I'm talking about where you can get 1/8" thick Buna-N Nitrile rubber in 60duro by the 36" wide linear foot.  You can also get wetsuit neoprene for exposure blankets and it's all reclaimed end rolls, etc.  This is the co. frog introduced me too on the old boards.  I misread Johnny's post and thought he was implying that I shouldn't mention it.

What's the prob with action Johnny?  They've been ok to work with in my experience and have some decent products. 

Offline killergraphics

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 04:27:14 PM »
who is us?

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Offline SpiderMachines

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 04:43:22 PM »
Rubber is more forgiving PERIOD

As for HoneyComb being cooler during flashing LOL (that's a sales-pitch)

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Offline 3Deep

Re: Pallet Rubber/MHM
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 04:58:03 PM »
Well if you use pallet rubber you want have little MHMers running around, I couldn,t help myself :p

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